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Spider quad

Started by Smeagol, Saturday,November 17, 2012, 01:47:19

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Smeagol

Quote from: Gaza07 on Monday,November 26, 2012, 10:55:27
Hi Baldrick Homersainty posted this link in the chat room last night http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/p-2132-2mm-black-fibreglass-flat-sheet.aspx is that the sheet you were looking for  ;)

I';ve seen them before, probably same source, when I saw £25 for 0.6 x 0.6 I decided to make my own and get the satisfaction, but of course thanks for the info.

I have asked a knowledgeable mate some info on the process to make the CF sheet, might try a few pieces.

Gaza07

Is that expensive ? I kind off thought it was but not do bad considering how many frames it would make ::)

Smeagol

Quote from: Gaza07 on Monday,November 26, 2012, 12:27:28
Is that expensive ? I kind off thought it was but not do bad considering how many frames it would make ::)


Not dear if it';s the professionally made material at £25 + vat + delivery for 0.6 x 0.6

I bought the materials for approx. 1mx 1m for £25 and have the added satisfaction of doing it myself. As most of us know, DIY isn';t always cheaper, can freequently be dearer, but what price satisfaction  :hmm:

Smeagol

I now have all the parts I need, well I hope so  :hmm:

I';m looking at the general layout so that I can remodel and remachine the frames using my freshly made CF sheet  ~~

Following is an outline view of the spider, with a circle drawn through the motors 610mm dia, so the X is where I need to place the FC then  on the top face of the frame :shrug:

[smg id=107 type=preview align=center width=400]

The Power distribution board will be mounted on the lower frame below the FC, with 2 ESC mounted either side of the PDB on the bottom frame plate.

I';ll machine a cover plate to go over the FC for protection.

The battery will be velcro fixed on the underside of the bottom plate.

I';d appreciate your thoughts just to make sure i';m on the right track.

Gaza07

That looks like a very good design to me spot on  ~~

Smeagol

Quote from: Gaza07 on Monday,December 17, 2012, 21:26:13
That looks like a very good design to me spot on  ~~

Cheers Gaz, am I right with the FC position.

Gaza07


Smeagol

Cheers Gaz ..

Questions for the Naza crew ... of which I am a upcoming member  :cool:

Is there an orientation for the FC, there is no marking evident.

I plan to mount using double sided velcro and velcro strap, and protect using a CF plate over the top, is this ok.

Any info that may be useful always welcome.

Ordered some high density led strips too .... going to be a busy christmas  ::)

micarus

Watching your build with great interes Smeagol!  :cool: you';v obviously got far too much money but the design is looking great and the stuff on your build list is awsome ~~
What a start for you ,I';m dead envyous M8.
Guese the test flight will be after Xmas :laugh:

             Cheers,                      MIKE.. :beer2: :beer2:
fly it like ya stole it.

Smeagol

Quote from: micarus on Tuesday,December 18, 2012, 11:18:57
Watching your build with great interes Smeagol!  :cool: you';v obviously got far too much money but the design is looking great and the stuff on your build list is awsome ~~
What a start for you ,I';m dead envyous M8.
Guese the test flight will be after Xmas :laugh:

             Cheers,                      MIKE.. :beer2: :beer2:

Hi Mike, Far too much money  :rofl:

The build list was generated with a lot of good advice from the guys on here  :notworthy: my contribution will be the crash videos  :whistling: but thats why I haven';t ordered a camera yet  :whistling:

I plan to start building this weekend, but Friday night at the rugby, and Saturday finishing christmas shopping will have to be done first.

Hopefully get a test flight during the following week as i';m off.


Gaza07

I would just like to say that if anyone finds them selves in a position where they have far to much money, I';m willing to take as much off there hands as they feel they need to get rid of and of course all for free, I wouldn';t make any charge for helping out  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

homersainty

semagol  f1/f2 and m1 to m6 is the front of naza also put some black electrical tape on the left hand side of the naza to protect the Barometer  from sunlight will save you doing it later
If you find yourself in danger of being taken seriously, then try to do something which undermines or sabotages that perception in some way.

Smeagol

Thanks Homer, it';s these details that make it a whole lot easier to avoid strange things happening


Smeagol

Spent a little more time tonight looking at component placement, here is what I came up with.

There will be a rectangular plate over the top of the naza FC, I will mount the gps on to this platform. Should it be positioned in the centre above the FC, or does it not matter.

[smg id=108 type=preview align=center width=400]

Appreciate your comments and advice

Gaza07


Balders

Position of the GPS puck is not critical on Naza, as the software allows you to set offset';s in any case.
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BNUC-S qualified
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Smeagol

Quote from: Balders on Tuesday,December 18, 2012, 23:28:01
Position of the GPS puck is not critical on Naza, as the software allows you to set offset';s in any case.


Spot on, I could have it central if necessary.

Ok so it';s looks good to go, just need to get some time then.

Smeagol

Monday,December 24, 2012, 11:46:12 #47 Last Edit: Monday,December 24, 2012, 12:38:19 by Smeagol
Christmas tasks all done so time to get properly started then. I';ll post a few pics shortly, having a wee diff getting my phone to hookup to pc.

A couple of questions to help me along, as i';m not finding the info in the manuals (Yes Gaz I have been looking at the manuals)  ::)

I have the stock Turnigy 9x TX and FRsky module with RX

Do I feed the RX from the power board using one of these http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=14310.


Smeagol

Rather than re edit previous post ....

I now have the FRSky module bound to the RX  - well I reckon so as the led is now green :smiley:

Naza is flashing yellow, so next step is to configure TX or configure Naza  :help:

homersainty

calibrate tx then on to naza settings should take all of 10 mins then test time  ~~
If you find yourself in danger of being taken seriously, then try to do something which undermines or sabotages that perception in some way.

Smeagol

Quote from: homersainty on Monday,December 24, 2012, 14:25:52
calibrate tx then on to naza settings should take all of 10 mins then test time  ~~

I wish ...  :laugh: it';ll take me longer than that to RTFM I feel like a pig does when it';s looking at a watch at the moment.

I could really do with some online  :help:  :whistling: possibly via a chat session  :whistling:

Smeagol

Monday,December 24, 2012, 18:09:27 #51 Last Edit: Monday,December 24, 2012, 19:33:08 by Smeagol
Well I have the naza connected, to the pc, green light .

Turnigy 9x with FRSKY module calibrated and bound to FRSkY V8FR-II HV RX

I set it to heli using PPM, no other changes (that I know of)

Now the problem, connections between the naza and the RX, as the assistance is showing cfg-err( 8 )

It looks like it';s pointing to incorrect connections to RX from Naza, so with guidance I connected up one of the motors direct to the RX ports, here are the results:

port 1   motor spins medium on connection, right stick right stops, right stick left fast
port 2   motor spins medium on connection, right stick down stops, right stick up fast
port 3   left stick down stops, left stick up faster
port 4   motor spins medium on connection, left stick left stops, left stick right fast
port 5   motor spins on connection no stick affects it
port 6    motor spins on connection right stick right stops, right stick left fast (throttle affects also)
port 7   motor spins on connection no stick affects it


With help so far I have AETR going to 1-4 and U going to 5, can someone give me a hand to get this hooked up, i';m busting to give it an airing  :frantic:


Smeagol

well well well ... never underestimate your surroundings - damn cordless phone was interfering.

Ok moving on, TX now set to Acro mode 2, although its showing mode 1 on the front display !!!!

naza assistant is responding to controls in correct layout, but the limits are way off for some of them. So i';m going to have a nosey at the HK site for some 9x info.

Once I have the controls set, how do I actually get the motors to spin using the tx, ie how do I arm it


Balders

as per chat, both sticks to any lower corner to arm and disarm.

Be mindful that if you are having throw/travel adjust/calibration issues but want to see the motors spin up, take the props off first!
Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional

FPV Guru
BNUC-S qualified
Sbaps.co.uk

Smeagol

Quote from: Balders on Monday,December 24, 2012, 23:28:52
as per chat, both sticks to any lower corner to arm and disarm.

Be mindful that if you are having throw/travel adjust/calibration issues but want to see the motors spin up, take the props off first!

tried both sticks to same corner - no response  :banghead:

homersainty

If you find yourself in danger of being taken seriously, then try to do something which undermines or sabotages that perception in some way.

Smeagol

I have calibrated the naza stick controls, but still getting a constantly flashing red led when I disconnect from the pc.

My guess is it';s to do with the control mode switch setting (section 5 on naza), but although i';ve looked at a number of threads etc I really don';t know how/what to do, so looking from some help to configure on my 9x.


homersainty

If you find yourself in danger of being taken seriously, then try to do something which undermines or sabotages that perception in some way.

Smeagol

Quote from: homersainty on Wednesday,December 26, 2012, 09:01:37
smeagol douse this help ?



After reading a fair bit more and some advice received I decided to flash the stock 9x with er9x, went through a video, I think from the same guy in your link, to setup.

It looks like it';s set as heli mode. In chat last night, tried a few things but running through the naza stick calibration it is not working as it should. the stick movements function left only and will not pass mid point on the right.

I';m going to trawl the 9xforum today to see if I can find some info to get this sorted, hopefully i';ll get this thing sorted soon.

Still have a top plate to make yet to protect the naza aand mount the GPS.


DarrellW

Not sure about the 9x but regardless, have you set your travel on both ends of the stick? If you';ve not then you may default to 0 travel in the direction you';ve not set up.
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