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Started by neagron, Tuesday,October 02, 2012, 16:58:14

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neagron

My AIOP arrived today alog with the Oled,i have the V1 GPS is it better to just wait and get a V2 GPS,dont think will be using GPS for a while yet,but whats the big differenc and also Gaza are you still doing a set download like the AIOP,many thanks,Marty.

Gaza07

Tuesday,October 02, 2012, 17:14:44 #1 Last Edit: Tuesday,October 02, 2012, 17:16:43 by Gaza07
Hi Marty the v2 gps is better than the v1 but only because it has a larger antenna and eeprom which on mine doesnt seem to work, they both have the same gps module the ublox neo 6m and the settings in the firmware and the connections are the same so you can use the v1 and then just swap them over if you get a v2, with out having to re wire anything or change any code,
There is firmware already set in this section for the AIOP and the gps for multi wii v2.1 and megapirateng v2.7r4, Im going to make a manual for the megapirate it just getting round to it  :whistling:
Which are you going to run ? multi wii is easier to setup and more stable  ~~

Be very careful with the usb port they fall off easily, did you get a rctimer blue tooth module because once you have loaded the firmware every thin else can be dont via blue tooth, although you have to disconnect the blue tooth module from the FTDI when using the usb  ~~

teslahed

If i had one of the original AIOPs I'd be tempted to blob a small amount of epoxy around the USB port to reinforce it - though you'd have to be careful doing that not to get epoxy on the inside of the plug.
One circlip short of a quadcopter.
 1 lobe short of an antenna.

neagron

 :goodpost:  Thanks Chris and Gaza,firstly this is the V1.1 what ever difference it makes,im a dumpling I didt order the blue tooth or the micro usb,can I still use the FTDI,will be ordering from rctimers shortly.I have bambucopter mini multiwie here that I shold use first really ???,ive got the 2.1 downloaded and in my arduio file,also what is the new multwii upgrade do.Expect plenty of question once I start to set it up,the good thing is kipper will be learning also.ultimate aim Naza/GPS early next year,though to be honest probably this is better as I like to do aero,s.I await your answers gentlemen.Once again many thanks,Marty.

teslahed

Tuesday,October 02, 2012, 20:27:33 #4 Last Edit: Tuesday,October 02, 2012, 20:35:50 by teslahed
The 1.1 has a reinforced usb plug after a load fell off the V1.0 so you should be fine with that.

You don't need an FTDI interface because it has the usb built in.

A bluetooth adapter would still be nice to have, but not vital.

If you've got a micro usb cable from any other device you can just use that - there are a few different standards so if you've got a draw full of cables you should be ok. Failing that pop to your nearest computer shop and try and get one for £5 or so or look at ebay for cheaper ones.

I just had a look at the bamboocopter mini multiwii;

http://www.bambucopter.com/guides/ioi-mini-multiwii-setup/

It looks like a reasonable small and simple multiwii controller so it might make sense to give it a go first if you fancy it. If nothing else, if you crash the quadcopter really badly on your first flight you will still have the better AIOP flight controller. You wont feel all that much difference between the two until you get the more advanced stuff working on the AIOP like GPS etc - for simple flying around they'll be pretty similar. The gyros and accelerometers are a bit more modern on the AIOP and it has a much better barometer so altitude hold will work better - and it has more memory for adding GPS and stuff later.

I'm not sure exactly what all the improvements are with the latest 2.1 multiwii code - last time i looked there wasn't even a change log - but it has some improved GPS code in there and probably a few other tweaks that mean you may as well use it rather than an older version.
One circlip short of a quadcopter.
 1 lobe short of an antenna.

neagron

:goodpost:  Thank's Chris your advice will be taken,and when you require advice about cars us to jock's can help you,Marty.

Smeagol

Saturday,December 01, 2012, 23:35:22 #6 Last Edit: Sunday,December 02, 2012, 00:41:42 by Smeagol
I';m STILL waiting on my AIOP 1.1 and latest ublox GPS  :frantic:

I think the brainwashing by the naza supporters on here may just be getting through, but only a little. While I look at the impressive videos of RTH and altitude hold etc, am I just being impressed by the latest available videos.

How does this new AIOP and GPS perform with these features, any improvements that make it comparable/better than the naza. I note that the naza doesn';t do waypoints  unless you purchase the wookong version. Not sure if this is something I will use but it';s another little bite at the naza cherry.

I only found out this evening that the naza is ONLY for quads, that makes it an expensive purchase if I want to progress on to hex/octo, which if I am successful with the quad then I may well do so. Hopefully someone will tell me this is outdated information.

Hope this is the right place to ask, but i';d really like to appreciate the primary differences between the naza and this current version of AIOP with the latest version of software

Gaza07

Im pretty sure the Naza does more than quads not sure where you got that info but its incorrect  :shrug:
The AIOP running MegapirateNG is more than capable of doing the return home loiter altitude hold and way point flying it just takes a lot more setting up and not every one gets it running right,
There is also multi wii which is very stable offers return home loiter altitude hold but doesnt offer way points  ~~ 

Smeagol

Quote from: Gaza07 on Sunday,December 02, 2012, 09:58:45
Im pretty sure the Naza does more than quads not sure where you got that info but its incorrect  :shrug:
The AIOP running MegapirateNG is more than capable of doing the return home loiter altitude hold and way point flying it just takes a lot more setting up and not every one gets it running right,
There is also multi wii which is very stable offers return home loiter altitude hold but doesnt offer way points  ~~


Can';t recall which info site said about quads only, obviously a mis read by myself then, that means the naza is still on the cards then.

I reckon i';ll have to get this thing in the air first and see how difficult it is to get these features running, I certainly don';t mind putting in the effort, especially if it means the extra money could go on a second multi  :whistling:, my son is already "hinting"


paulcobra

you could look at it this way... you can get 2x aio pros and 2x gps for the price of a naza with gps

Smeagol

Quote from: paulcobra on Monday,December 03, 2012, 01:16:04
you could look at it this way... you can get 2x aio pros and 2x gps for the price of a naza with gps


Yep, thats what my Son says too  :hmm: