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Re: Drone shuts down Gatwick airport. Media at it again!
« Reply #120 on: January 08, 2019, 20:37:45 »
I had a feeling that we hadn't seen the end of this story.
The trouble is either everyone who works at or around airports are going to be paranoid after the Gatwick incident and everytime they see a shadow on the ground they'll assume it's cast by a drone, Or (What I'm really worried about), Some little f**kwitt with a warped sense of "Fun" is going to think "Well, No one got caughtl when they f**ked about at Gatwick. Let's get a cheap drone and cause some havoc......... it'll be a laugh".

I'm going to hold off judgement till more facts are known.......... but one thing's for sure though. Drone regulation wouldn't have stopped it either way.
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Re: Drone shuts down Gatwick airport. Media at it again!
« Reply #121 on: January 08, 2019, 21:23:55 »
Bbc had a copy of interview with the guy who reported the Heathrow one, what he saw was red and green lights in the (night) sky, unequivocal then

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« Reply #122 on: January 08, 2019, 21:42:54 »
Bbc had a copy of interview with the guy who reported the Heathrow one, what he saw was red and green lights in the (night) sky, unequivocal then
Don't planes have red and green lights on them?????? I wonder if he saw a plane at an airport!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #123 on: January 08, 2019, 22:41:58 »
Don't planes have red and green lights on them?????? I wonder if he saw a plane at an airport!!!!!!!!

Planes?...... At an airport?......... Surely not. I'm sure I read somewhere that they have to keep 5km away from airports or something don't they?  :o
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Re: Drone shuts down Gatwick airport. Media at it again!
« Reply #124 on: January 09, 2019, 08:23:35 »
It'd only take a shotgun to sort this (I'll even volunteer!) Infact, airfields usually employ people to shoot/scare birds - I attended an interview for the role at RAF waddington last year but sadly didn't get the job. Surely those same people could have sorted this "drone" by now.....

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Re: Drone shuts down Gatwick airport. Media at it again!
« Reply #125 on: January 09, 2019, 08:50:05 »
The problem is now that it doesn't even have to be a drone flying, it just needs a stupid person to ring the authorities and say that they saw a drone flying and the shoot from the hip action kicks in.. :thumbdown:

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« Reply #126 on: January 09, 2019, 08:55:43 »
I might be wrong but an aircraft at   400 feet   @ 1.5 k  from an airport isn't landing its crashing.. :shrug:
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Re: Drone shuts down Gatwick airport. Media at it again!
« Reply #127 on: January 09, 2019, 10:20:32 »
It'd only take a shotgun to sort this (I'll even volunteer!) Infact, airfields usually employ people to shoot/scare birds - I attended an interview for the role at RAF waddington last year but sadly didn't get the job. Surely those same people could have sorted this "drone" by now.....

problem is flying shell parts from shotguns would be more dangerous than a drone flyng around etc police said the same last time when it happened too just bizzare second airport sighting but zip all evidence pfff wonder if heathrows gonna be sold off too lol :popcorn:

what humours me is all the non drone flyers making a massive deal about it and the flyers couldn't give a s### as we all fly within the rules anyway so nothing gonna change in the end
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Re: Drone shuts down Gatwick airport. Media at it again!
« Reply #128 on: January 09, 2019, 10:33:20 »
Good old Bruce.  I always enjoy his rants.  Bruce probably does more for the UK drone community than the UK drone community:


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Re: Drone shuts down Gatwick airport. Media at it again!
« Reply #129 on: January 09, 2019, 19:13:54 »
What is 1500m x tan(3 degrees)?

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Both the height and distance (described as being over houndslow) were based on the statement of the man who saw the red and green light.
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« Reply #130 on: January 09, 2019, 20:38:18 »
Both the height and distance (described as being over houndslow) were based on the statement of the man who saw the red and green light.
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« Reply #131 on: January 14, 2019, 17:07:12 »
Any of you guys seen this, what a load of rubbish, makes you think sometimes about the creators of these pages.. :banghead: :banghead:
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« Reply #132 on: January 14, 2019, 17:12:52 »
We could all report the group.  That might shut it down.  Click the "more" button on the group page and select "report".
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« Reply #133 on: January 14, 2019, 17:30:39 »
 I say let's fight fire with fire. Anyone know how many people need to class their religion as "Dronest" before it would have to be recognised as genuine?

"I fly RC aircraft as an antenna to help guide my deities love down to me....... and if you moan about it then you're guilty of spreading religious hatred, and you're going to prison !".
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« Reply #134 on: January 14, 2019, 18:56:40 »
I fly mine high so that Satan can use my radio signals as a pathway to invade heavens realm and if you don't like it you can kiss my demonic round ass :beer2:
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Re: Drone shuts down Gatwick airport. Media at it again!
« Reply #135 on: January 14, 2019, 19:32:11 »
Well, I thought it was pretty weak so far, if that's the best anti-drone aggression they can come up with we have nothing to worry about.

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« Reply #136 on: January 14, 2019, 19:43:38 »
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« Reply #137 on: January 14, 2019, 22:24:04 »
problem is flying shell parts from shotguns would be more dangerous than a drone flyng around

Not in the right hands (anyone with some common sense).

For the uninitiated; what comes out of a shotgun is the shot and a wad; the shot is generally about 300 lead balls about 1.5-3mm in diameter. These won't break your skin if someone fired at you from any further than 75 yards away, sting maybe and not good for your eyes but that's about it. When fired straight up, they're just like hail stones when they come back down (the latter I have experienced).

The wad is even less harmful, they're generally plastic and about the diameter of your thumb with petals that open when it leaves the barrel, they're designed to slow quickly and get out of the way of the shot. They weigh less than a bottle cap and usually fall to the ground about 10-20 yards away

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Re: Drone shuts down Gatwick airport. Media at it again!
« Reply #138 on: January 14, 2019, 22:52:17 »
Not in the right hands (anyone with some common sense).

For the uninitiated; what comes out of a shotgun is the shot and a wad; the shot is generally about 300 lead balls about 1.5-3mm in diameter. These won't break your skin if someone fired at you from any further than 75 yards away, sting maybe and not good for your eyes but that's about it. When fired straight up, they're just like hail stones when they come back down (the latter I have experienced).

The wad is even less harmful, they're generally plastic and about the diameter of your thumb with petals that open when it leaves the barrel, they're designed to slow quickly and get out of the way of the shot. They weigh less than a bottle cap and usually fall to the ground about 10-20 yards away

Not sure if they were referring to the shotgun parts are dangerous to the jet engines. i.e the lead pellets could be injested into the engine, melted and bock cooling holes. Jet engines run unbelievably hot and use lots of air to provide a barrier to flames touching combustion cans etc as the flame would melt even the 'special' steel if the air was not in the way. There are thousands of very small holes on the blades for cooling as well that need to be clear.

To be honest the pellets would likely be dispersed so much I very much doubt they would cause any real damage to an engine probably just reduce efficiency a fraction at worst.

Good to know that I need to be 75 yards away from someone with a shot gun to stay safe  :smiley:

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« Reply #139 on: January 14, 2019, 23:18:34 »
That of course depends on the shot size they're using; obviously shot intended for geese at about 7mm will travel considerably further. Conversely, very fine shot for clay pigeons or very small game is more like the consistency of coarse salt....

Your general country bumpkin will likely use no.6 which is about 2mm so if you're 75 yards or more away when he finds out what you've been up to with his daughter, keep running but chances are you'll be just fine.... until he's got the land rover started at least  :rofl:

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« Reply #140 on: January 14, 2019, 23:20:47 »
That makes me think about a story I heard about when the CIA were testing the SR71 Blackbird out at Groom lake (In Area 51).

It seems that when it would start accelerating down the runway it's engines were pulling in so much air that it would literally suck dust and small stones off the ground and damage compressor blades. The CIA's solution? Before each flight they'd send groups to walk down the runway to look for and remove any stones, Then run a vehicle up and down dragging a bloody great vacuum cleaner type contraption to pick up the dust !!!!

So that would be 20 or 30 people, Each with a security clearance higher than the presidents, Walking the couple miles of runway to pick up rocks.............. That there's American tax dollars at work. :)
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« Reply #141 on: January 15, 2019, 13:24:50 »
That makes me think about a story I heard about when the CIA were testing the SR71 Blackbird out at Groom lake (In Area 51).

It seems that when it would start accelerating down the runway it's engines were pulling in so much air that it would literally suck dust and small stones off the ground and damage compressor blades. The CIA's solution? Before each flight they'd send groups to walk down the runway to look for and remove any stones, Then run a vehicle up and down dragging a bloody great vacuum cleaner type contraption to pick up the dust !!!!

So that would be 20 or 30 people, Each with a security clearance higher than the presidents, Walking the couple miles of runway to pick up rocks.............. That there's American tax dollars at work. :)
Sounds about right to me. The American projects I was involved with, it was very much throw as many people at the problem as the solution.
Bit like the Americans spending thousands of man hrs making a pen that could write with zero gravity for use in space. The Russians used a pencil!!!!

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« Reply #142 on: January 16, 2019, 00:04:50 »
Sounds about right to me. The American projects I was involved with, it was very much throw as many people at the problem as the solution.
Bit like the Americans spending thousands of man hrs making a pen that could write with zero gravity for use in space. The Russians used a pencil!!!!

Bit of a myth that one. NASA used pencils too, but they were manfactured to be stronger than standard ones and so cost over $100 each during the mid 60’s. The pencils were a fire hazard though, and the leads could still break which could potentially cause electrical and mechanical issues. An independent U.S. company came up with the ‘space pen’ and NASA trialled it in the late 60’s. They were very happy with it and so the USA and Russia both bought the space pen for all future trips at a cost of just over $2 per unit.

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« Reply #143 on: January 16, 2019, 09:02:44 »
I dont get the need for a "space pen".

dont biro's work on a simple vacuum principle??

or is the space pen what we all eventually came to know as the biro?
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Re: Drone shuts down Gatwick airport. Media at it again!
« Reply #144 on: January 16, 2019, 10:25:54 »
I dont get the need for a "space pen".

dont biro's work on a simple vacuum principle??

or is the space pen what we all eventually came to know as the biro?

I don't know but 'space pen' sounds cool so naturally I want one ::)

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« Reply #145 on: January 20, 2019, 11:03:47 »
dont biro's work on a simple vacuum principle??
Nope, they stop working when upside down so presumably require gravity to work

Same with roller-ball pens

Just to add, Perp caught flying drone @ Heathrow on 24th Dec

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46935933

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« Reply #146 on: January 20, 2019, 11:53:14 »
Nice how his name been made public without him even having gone to court yet.  :hmm:

If he turns out to be innocent like the last ones that'll be another person entitled to a big compensation claim for having their reputation destroyed by the media and police.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?  :angry:
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« Reply #147 on: January 20, 2019, 12:03:58 »
Nice how his name been made public without him even having gone to court yet.  :hmm:

If he turns out to be innocent like the last ones that'll be another person entitled to a big compensation claim for having their reputation destroyed by the media and police.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?  :angry:
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« Reply #148 on: January 20, 2019, 12:38:39 »
Therein lies the problem with UK law. It appears it is fine to publish the alleged perpetrators name but it is usually illegal to publish the victims name!!
This needs to be changed so until convicted the names of alleged perpetrators and victims is not published. This might cause more court cases to be tried as other victims might only come forward after a conviction but for the sake of the innocent who currently have their worlds destroyed that is a small price to pay.

Ive been saying for years that particular trait with our laws is screamingly wrong, very sadly but  in particular is cases where false rape allegations have been made, they'll splash the alleged rapists name and face all over the papers while the alleged victim remains correctly anonymous, then even when the falsehood of the allegation comes to light the poor sod who was accused and publicly slammed has to live with a large degree of people whispering behind his back still while the alleged victim now proven full of 5hite is still protected by anonymity laws... whenever I see such things it genuinely makes me feel sick as in reality that exact thing can happen to any of us.
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