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Offline ched999uk

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Show us your rates!!!
« on: September 23, 2018, 20:54:37 »
OK so rates are a personal thing but I was wondering how much peoples rates differ.
So what are your rates and what type of flying do you do?

Pitch/Roll    RC Rate:2.03     Super:0.51   Max Vel 1006 Degs     RCExpo 0.0 
YAW           RC Rate 1.0       Super 0.70   Max Vel 666               RC Expo 0.10

I am learning and was finding standard rates needed too much stick movement. I am mainly just flying at low level round a football pitch with goals (small toy ones) as my targets  ::)

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Re: Show us your rates!!!
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2018, 09:43:34 »
My current rates are close to Stingys rates.  They're for freestyle, but are nimble enough to do gates.  I've had to reduce them a bit for use with the X-Lite

RC Rate 0.9
Super 0.8
RC Expo 0.3/0.2 (pitchroll/yaw)
Setpoint Weight 1.05-1.1
Setpoint Transition 0.4

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Re: Show us your rates!!!
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2018, 09:53:56 »
Some historical information that you may find interesting (or not) mate:

Tradionaly we only had rate (now RCrate) and expo o; the flight controller.
Rate created a diagonal straight line, regardles of where the stick was, the same amount of movement on the stick gave you the same ammount of change of aspect. This by its self is pretty nasty to fly and expo was always (apart from one pilot I know) included on stock
Expo changes the line to the curve we all use

Now expo on the F.C. software is very basic, it just makes the curve more or less pronounced.
Expo could also be applied on the radio. This had far more control, instead of just more or less pronounced you could set multiple points on the curve, giving far better control of the shape and depth of the curve

Betaflight then introduced super rate (s rate) which is only applied to 5e stick end, creating a curve without expo (it was suggested on the rcgroups bf thread at the time, that s-rate would replace expo). This curve can then be further manipulated with expo

Rates are of course personal but then so is flying style, as a general rule some thing about the curve are of benefit to certain flying styles -

Flat mid throttle - makes centre stick smooth, generally good for long smooth sweeping lines, but makes top and bottom of stick less granular
The opposite gives you much better granularity away from centre stick, but tends to make centre stick less smooth

You pick the balance between the two that suits your flying style and makes you comfortable. You only find this from trial and error, there isn’t a right answer

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Re: Show us your rates!!!
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2018, 18:25:29 »
You pick the balance between the two that suits your flying style and makes you comfortable. You only find this from trial and error, there isn’t a right answer
Very true 'no right answer' just interesting to see what others found best for them.

I will have to look at Setpoint Weight and Setpoint Transition. I vaguely remember a Josh vid about them but it didn't really make sense at the time. Hopefully know I understand 'the feel' I might get the idea :-)

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Re: Show us your rates!!!
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2018, 13:16:01 »
I fly with really low rates
Pitch/Roll RC Rate:2.07    Super 0.00  RC Expo 0.75
YAW            RC Rate 1.75   Super 0.00  RC Expo 0.75

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Re: Show us your rates!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2018, 15:52:44 »
I think I have discovered one of my flying issues  ::)
I had control issues where my fingers just couldn't produce the small movements requires so for the last, probably 12 months, I have been pinching the sticks as I then have enough control.
BUT I have just discovered why I was having to use almost linear rates. When pinching I couldn't really move the sticks towards the ends of their travel.

So last night, on Velocidrone, I set rates back to almost standard and tried to thumb the sticks.
WOW so much easier to get flips and rolls as my thumbs can get to the end of stick travel  ::)

So I believe that pinching has helped me achieve fine finger control but to get enough movement on the sticks I need to thumb.
Looks like lots of Velocidrone practice  ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Show us your rates!!!
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2018, 17:59:48 »
I think I have discovered one of my flying issues  ::)
I had control issues where my fingers just couldn't produce the small movements requires so for the last, probably 12 months, I have been pinching the sticks as I then have enough control.
BUT I have just discovered why I was having to use almost linear rates. When pinching I couldn't really move the sticks towards the ends of their travel.

So last night, on Velocidrone, I set rates back to almost standard and tried to thumb the sticks.
WOW so much easier to get flips and rolls as my thumbs can get to the end of stick travel  ::)

So I believe that pinching has helped me achieve fine finger control but to get enough movement on the sticks I need to thumb.
Looks like lots of Velocidrone practice  ::) ::) ::)

Cool! It’s funny how little things like that make a difference. I’m a thumbs guy myself but I know a lot of people use a hybrid grip where you pinch for fine control but use thumbs to get to stick ends. Apparently... A guy I fly with is a sucker for details like this, I think it’s more about doing whatever feels most comfortable although I do think thumbers tend to be ever so slightly more jerky with fine stick inputs - I definitely am!




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