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HDO or HD3
« on: May 03, 2018, 10:11:59 »
I’ve just taken delivery of fatshark hd3’s, still in the box. Do I send them back for HDO’s?! Discuss...


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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2018, 10:18:06 »
Have you seen Josh Bardwells youtube vid comparing the 2?
Seems like the HDO are better image and hdmi compatibility but smaller image size plus the extra cost!

Difficult decision.

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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2018, 10:18:28 »
Had the same dilemma  as soon as i got the HD3 they brought out the HDO ...I like the hd3 the new ones won't improve my flying  so i'm keeping them and when all the faults are ironed out of the HDO  santa will get a letter. and the others will become backup , Just like the domv3, and the Attitudes.. I give up.. :shrug:
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2018, 10:36:57 »
I’m upgrading from dom v2 so anything will be impressive! I’ve not seen anyone say it’s unbelievable, but I did see a guy say you won’t notice the field of view but you will notice the image. But then I’ve seen a guy say the fov is a deal breaker. Horses for courses I guess.

I think some of the newer cmos cams probably make a bigger difference. I did read from someone who flies with a runcam eagle that they preferred the hd3 so it’s probably not just all about the goggle displays.


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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2018, 11:06:30 »
i only just got my HD3s and a week later the HD0 was announced and available for preorder

yes the oled screens are nicer and better colours, will it make you fly better? no. the video feeds while flying are always noisy at best so having amazing quality screens are pointless

JB recently did a side by side of the HD3 and HD0 and i much preferred the HD3

the cameras are also low resolution so a higher resolution screen will make no difference

for me FOV is the most important factor, that's why i chose the HD3 over the dom v3 and attitude v4

i know Steele still uses his HD2 because of the massive FOV

those that get fatshark for the hdmi input are wasting money imo, get a holder for you mobile phone, most mobiles have HD or UHD resolution and the phone holders provide a massive cinema like FOV for watching films etc

until they make vtx/vrx that can transmit HD video with low latency and rock solid connection to reduce noise there will be no need for high resolution fancy googles

so buy your googles based on the FOV you want

JD videos on the HD0 are starting to seem biased towards the HD0, his first video seems honest, where he says they are not really an upgrade to the HD3 just different
his recent ones he is really trying to sell them

don't get my wrong JB is great, but end of the day these guys are trying to make a living out of this hobby and youtube

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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2018, 11:11:03 »
I’ve just taken delivery of fatshark hd3’s, still in the box. Do I send them back for HDO’s?! Discuss...


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Send them back for some AOMWAY Commander V2s.  Looks like they've just been released. :laugh:
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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2018, 11:24:04 »

those that get fatshark for the hdmi input are wasting money imo, get a holder for you mobile phone, most mobiles have HD or UHD resolution and the phone holders provide a massive cinema like FOV for watching films etc

until they make vtx/vrx that can transmit HD video with low latency and rock solid connection to reduce noise there will be no need for high resolution fancy googles

so buy your googles based on the FOV you want

JD videos on the HD0 are starting to seem biased towards the HD0, his first video seems honest, where he says they are not really an upgrade to the HD3 just different
his recent ones he is really trying to sell them

don't get my wrong JB is great, but end of the day these guys are trying to make a living out of this hobby and youtube

I have only seen the first JB Video, so that is the one I was talking about at top.

One advantage of the HDO and it's HDMI is for using it on simulators. I am not sure it is actually better for them to support 1080 instead of 720 as you say we only have SD video feed when flying.
While the resolution is better at 900x720 as you say we only feed in 720 pixels x 576 lines(is there a diff lines/pixels?). Depending on the analogue to digital conversion it could be better that the older design HD3 but who knows?
Also they say the HDO can provide more power to the receiver bay which might be useful but it doesn't come with a bigger battery?

The one thing that would worry me is the HDO is using 'new' technology in googles so what will long term reliability be like? OK so FatShark do have a good reputation re repairs but if their use of the new OLed technology isn't up to the abuse of being in goggles they might not last much past 12months? I have no ideas if this will prove to be the case but not sure the extra features are worth the extra money at the moment.

This may be controversial but the new Commanders are about to be released. So might be worth sending back under distance selling rules. OK so it will cost you p&p both ways but might be worth waiting a few weeks to see what comes out in the wash. Unless you don't have any usable goggles at moment!

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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2018, 13:29:53 »
the HDO does provide more power for the larger modules but these has separate power inputs anyway and will work with any other fatsharks, these modules are very expensive too
most people will be using a furious fpv trueD or a laforge

for a simulator ye high res is great but is it really worth the extra cost?

as you said the HDO uses new tech, i'd rather wait for the HDO v2 for them to iron out any issues, hopefully by then we will have better cameras that can make use of the new features

with regards to the battery the HDO use the same 1800mah that came with the HD3 (none core version)
i use a 2500mah 2s tattu battery, its smaller and lighter than the fatshark battery, also lasts all day (5-6 hours i read online) which is more than enough for my flights and watching my mates fly when i'm taking a break

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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2018, 21:25:38 »
As a hd3 owner I can say the Dom v2 are better.  I think you’ll find them hard to beat!

You’ll have to open the wrapper to find out for yourself!


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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2018, 21:33:07 »
I stuck with the hd3! They’re pushing back the release date for the next batch of hdo.


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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2018, 22:18:14 »
I love my Dom V2’s to bits. There’s a reason why you don’t see many of them poping up in the second hand market.

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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2018, 08:02:36 »
I stuck with the hd3! They’re pushing back the release date for the next batch of hdo.


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Not such a bad thing the mk2 will have all the lumps sorted.
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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2018, 16:11:35 »
I have HD3's and Skyzone 01's. I absolutely 100% prefer the Skyzones but as the HD3's have HDMI (handy for Shield and Mavic Pro even though I have the DJI goggles).

I don't think I'd ever buy Fatshark again. The comfort isn't for me at all. They really don't fit my face well. I have upgraded the foam but they still hurt and bleed light. Finally, the Furious FPV module is absolute pish. The fit is diabolical. Built in Diversity all the way. I would change to the stupid LaForge to see if that was any better but having already pi$$ed as much up the wall on these I can't justify it.
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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2018, 19:02:18 »
Dom v2 ftw I am afraid 😟

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HDO or HD3
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2018, 19:39:32 »
Dom v2? The blue ones? The ones I’ve been flying for the last 3 years?!


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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2018, 01:40:59 »
When it comes to choosing goggles, your face shape & eyes are critical and screen types & resolutions are only as good as the compatibility & suitability to your face & eyes. So, no set of goggles can ever be better than another until they can be versatile enough to accommodate the many complexities of most individuals.

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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2018, 14:02:07 »
I managed to get hold of a set of HDO's the other week.
Here is my quick review and thoughts

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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2018, 14:07:05 »
I tried a pair of skyzone 03 v2 the other week. They just don’t fit a big western nose and there isn’t enough curvature on faceplate, I could see the guy standing next to me while I was wearing them!


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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2018, 20:39:17 »
I tried a pair of skyzone 03 v2 the other week. They just don’t fit a big western nose and there isn’t enough curvature on faceplate, I could see the guy standing next to me while I was wearing them!


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I am really interested to try the 03 V2's. I love my current skyzones. Even they HDO's i tired would not draw me away.... for now

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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2018, 20:41:53 »
I tried a pair of skyzone 03 v2 the other week. They just don’t fit a big western nose and there isn’t enough curvature on faceplate, I could see the guy standing next to me while I was wearing them!


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You sure they are the revamped version?

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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2018, 20:54:30 »
You sure they are the revamped version?



Yup!

The optics were really good actually, very crisp and better than fatshark. Just the faceplate causing light leaks. 


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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2018, 03:25:28 »
That's disappointing, thought the faceplate shim were meant to stop that.

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Re: HDO or HD3
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2018, 10:15:50 »
I'm still rocking the Dom V2, they're awesome for my style of flying and I have no intention of upgrading yet.
good to see new products coming out, however it's about justifying the cost and whether it's worthwhile upgrading, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. ~~
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2018, 00:19:35 »


Yup!

The optics were really good actually, very crisp and better than fatshark. Just the faceplate causing light leaks. 


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Who has stock of these in the UK?
I was going to pre order from Banggood as they were dirt cheap. Find up a fair bit now.