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Offline Stactix

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New rooster build feedback wanted
« on: March 30, 2018, 22:48:24 »
decided to build a new quad during my time off.
current thoughts.
armattan Rooster frame
Bardwell f4 fc
30amp spedix escs
F40 ii pro motors

have already
run cam swift 2
tbs unify pro race
rxsr or xm+
dal t5045c props


could probably do with some new batts too!

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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2018, 00:50:13 »
decided to build a new quad during my time off.
current thoughts.
let’s see what we can do, first question though is what sort of quad are you after, seems a little confused in parts, a racer or an acro/Park flier?
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armattan Rooster frame
There have been a few problems with the QC on the rooster, but fair enough, suggests not a racer
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Bardwell f4 fc
Hmm most of the development focus on flight control software is on 32khz gyro/pid loops and the filtering associated with that, you can’t do that with an MPU6000, I would rather look for a flight controller with a 32khz capable gyro (IMU series)
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30amp spedix escs
That covers a multitude of escs, go for blheli32
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F40 ii pro motors
if I want a high end racer, any day of the week and twice on sunday, however for a Park flier or acro, there are potentially cheaper options that suit the throttle band better and will give you better flight times
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have already
run cam swift 2
tbs unify pro race
rxsr or xm+
dal t5045c props


could probably do with some new batts too!

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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2018, 10:26:58 »
thanks for the reply
Looking at a more acro oriented build

what would you reccomend for the FC?

for the motors, would the brother r5s or Hypetrains be a better option?
Is there anything extra I'd need for this build?





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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2018, 10:59:17 »
Flight controller is an interesting one, the f4 bluejay and f7 Nero work very well but don’t give an ISD, the matek f7, the omnibus f4 pro corner and fireworks are both good spec.

Motors, the r5 are gonna give you as good performance for acro as the f40ii and are of a quality just as good. Hype train are pretty close but you are paying for a brand. I think I would go with r5

A thought on props -the cyclone are good, but were originally more racing orientated, I would say gemfan wind dancer or cyclone t5040c  are better acro props, smoother and more efficient at the cost of some top end. The smoothness may not be obvious depending on how experienced a pilot you are, but if you want to trade speed for efficiency try them

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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2018, 12:45:13 »
I see thanks,
The omnibus looks nice, what about the kakute-f4-aio-v2-flight-controller?
Also, what would happen with the swift and a fc with an OSD? would they conflict?



Right bought from makeitbuildit, Spedix GS 30A 2-4S BLHeli 32bit Dshot 1200 Escs
BrotherHobby Returner R5 Deadpool Edition 2450KV Brushless Motor 4-5S
DALProp T5040C Cyclone Tri-Blade

I would buy it from Makeitbuildit but not sure if I have to buy the TBS Unify Antenna plate separately or if it's included (I'm sure I saw somewhere saying it would be included in 2nd batch shipments.)


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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2018, 20:51:49 »
I see thanks,
The omnibus looks nice, what about the kakute-f4-aio-v2-flight-controller?
The kakute is a bit marmite, some like, some hate, it has a 32khz capable gyro I believe on the v2
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Also, what would happen with the swift and a fc with an OSD? would they conflict?
not so much conflict, both will appear. Turn off one or the other off. Tbh the cam offers all you need in flight, but the F.C. OSD will let you tune things


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Right bought from makeitbuildit, Spedix GS 30A 2-4S BLHeli 32bit Dshot 1200 Escs
BrotherHobby Returner R5 Deadpool Edition 2450KV Brushless Motor 4-5S
DALProp T5040C Cyclone Tri-Blade

I would buy it from Makeitbuildit but not if I have to buy the TBS Unify Antenna plate separately or if it's included (I'm sure I saw somewhere saying it would be included in 2nd batch shipments.)

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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2018, 15:04:21 »
Went with the Kakute in the end,
Recieved frame & FC, today.
Frames built, tested FC and looks fine in Betaflight.

Only concern I have is on the back on two of the processors one has a black like 'N' Mark, top right of picture but not visible in PIC
While middle one has a brownish U mark
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Any ideas what this is, just a little worried it's a damaged chip or something!


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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2018, 15:20:58 »
Looks fine from that picture.

Take a better one if you can and circle the area of concern. To help us help you.
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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2018, 15:34:14 »
<br /><br /><br />img images<br />

A worse photo, but you can kinda see the black mark on the processor, main concern is the brown mark which is clearer on first photo.
Just wanted to double check before I start soldering on the board!
It's probably nothing but thought it worth asking.

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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2018, 15:46:48 »
Does it power up and work ok on the bench?

The small chip is the flash for BlackBox logging so not that important.

The big chip looks to me more brown ish, I hate to say possible overheating during manufacturing or operation.

Power it up and see how hot it gets, it should't get hot at all. If it does then I'd not be happy using it.




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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2018, 16:22:19 »
Does it power up and work ok on the bench?

The small chip is the flash for BlackBox logging so not that important.

The big chip looks to me more brown ish, I hate to say possible overheating during manufacturing or operation.

Power it up and see how hot it gets, it should't get hot at all. If it does then I'd not be happy using it.

Yes, betaflight appears to work fine, left it connected for around 15-20mins and it did get 'slightly warm' all over the board but not very noticeable.
Drone pic rotates etc when I move the FC which is a good sign.

I've contacted the provider (unmanned) just to see what they say!

thanks for your help, hopefully not a goner.

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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2018, 13:25:11 »
Just an update, did go ahead and build it and it works fine.
Recieved a reply from the supplier after and it turns out both marks are made to make sure correct firmware has been put on.


Haven't really flown it properly due to darn weather.
One query I had, is any good products for water proofing?
Trying to find a good option, is there something that I could put on ESC'S/ Motors(r5s are open bottom so a bit iffy especially in wet grass) & FC?
Have had a look around and everyone seems to say something different.

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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2018, 13:33:10 »
Silicone conformal coating does a good job.

http://uk.farnell.com/search?st=conformal%20coating
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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2018, 14:05:56 »

Recieved a reply from the supplier after and it turns out both marks are made to make sure correct firmware has been put on.


Only 1 chip has FW in it, so either they don't know what they are talking about or are feeding you BS.
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Re: New rooster build feedback wanted
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2018, 14:30:19 »
I have a couple of  f/c  with the ident removed from the chips,  some very precisely . Looks like it has been laser etched. :shrug:
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