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Xiaomi 4k Update
« on: December 06, 2017, 14:17:05 »
I've mostly been lurking since I joined, 'cos I like to think of myself as the strong silent type (actually I'm more like a grumpy child in the corner, but meh). I've had the Mi Drone for a while now so I thought I'd post a few wee videos I've put together - I'm still learning to fly and film really, but I feel like I'm getting the hang of a it a little bit.





I'll not waffle on for ages, but if anyone's interested I've been writing a blog about the Mi and learning to fly at http://www.cleanslateimages.co.uk/

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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 16:50:33 »
Great footage will  :cool: your defo getting the hang of her  :beer2:  ~~
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 16:57:14 »
Still waiting for my Mi 4K, i am 5 days away from opening a paypal dispute so its starting to look like i wont be joining this club after all, though its winter and would not kill me to order from Banggood when i get refund, wont ever use Gearbest again
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 17:17:45 »
Cheers Bajadre!

How long have you been waiting apollo7? That's a right pain, I've only ever ordered cheap stuff from there (but I'm waiting on delivery of a handle for the Mi gimbal as we speak).

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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 19:16:59 »
I placed my order on the 11.11.17, so still in with a chance, its just the ruddy tracking shows it still waiting courier collection in China, and Gearbest are proving to be feckin useless, this WILL be my last ever order with this firm
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 19:43:06 »
Yeah I feel like if nothing goes wrong then they're great, but if it does then they're not much use. Fingers crossed you get it sorted.

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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 20:23:45 »
I placed my order on the 11.11.17, so still in with a chance, its just the ruddy tracking shows it still waiting courier collection in China, and Gearbest are proving to be feckin useless, this WILL be my last ever order with this firm

Its a long hard wait  :(
My ebay delivery from China only came on Monday (4th),and I'd ordered and paid on 9th November. Tracking was useless on the Chineseium side, and the route  through Belgium was non existence.
I personally won't use Gearbest anymore, and if I do purchase anything from Chinaland I limit me spend to 50 pound max, as I'm prepared to right that amount off if it goes pear-shaped,,,,, I'd rather not because I'm not well of.
I'm sure it will all come good, and you'll be buzzing the sky's soon enough  ::)
There getting good reviews !

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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2017, 20:45:35 »
Its a long hard wait  :(
My ebay delivery from China only came on Monday (4th),and I'd ordered and paid on 9th November. Tracking was useless on the Chineseium side, and the route  through Belgium was non existence.
I personally won't use Gearbest anymore, and if I do purchase anything from Chinaland I limit me spend to 50 pound max, as I'm prepared to right that amount off if it goes pear-shaped,,,,, I'd rather not because I'm not well of.
I'm sure it will all come good, and you'll be buzzing the sky's soon enough  ::)
There getting good reviews !

When im placed my order Gearbest were about £40 cheaper than banggood, at least i paid with paypal so if it dont turn up i can do a dispute, though i have heard Gearbest try to fob this of, but time will tell, annoying thing is i paid extra on shipping and the tracking is useless
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2017, 20:59:44 »
PayPal is good  ~~ had a full dispute with Gearbest on my faulty hubsan 501s,,,paypal got me a FULL refund  :smiley:

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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2017, 16:55:00 »
Sorry to hear you're having a nightmare with Gear Best, Apollo. I've only ordered from them once. They failed to send 2 of the 4 motors I ordered, asked me to WEIGH the package, asked me to photograph the packaging, asked me to contact Royal Mail, then claimed that the package had been opened, because it was 'evident in the photographs.' I pointed out that I HAD to OPEN the package in order to DISCOVER that there were 2 motors MISSING. They offered my a voucher, equivalent to about 2/3 of a motor. I declined. They went quiet. I lost the motivation to follow up.... Then, out of the blue, they sent me a singular motor. Totally unmatched to the ones I had originally recevied  :banghead:

So, no more Gear Best for me.  :thumbdown:

@Will - I was also looking at one of these as a cheaper alternative to a Phantom. Looks like you're getting some good footage. I may consider it a bit more...  :smiley:
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2017, 17:22:04 »
Sorry to hear you're having a nightmare with Gear Best, Apollo. I've only ordered from them once. They failed to send 2 of the 4 motors I ordered, asked me to WEIGH the package, asked me to photograph the packaging, asked me to contact Royal Mail, then claimed that the package had been opened, because it was 'evident in the photographs.' I pointed out that I HAD to OPEN the package in order to DISCOVER that there were 2 motors MISSING. They offered my a voucher, equivalent to about 2/3 of a motor. I declined. They went quiet. I lost the motivation to follow up.... Then, out of the blue, they sent me a singular motor. Totally unmatched to the ones I had originally recevied  :banghead:

So, no more Gear Best for me.  :thumbdown:

@Will - I was also looking at one of these as a cheaper alternative to a Phantom. Looks like you're getting some good footage. I may consider it a bit more...  :smiley:

I have had a reply on the gearbest dispute asking me to be patient for another 8 days, this is after them asking me to wait 10 days nearly a week ago,so they are asking me to wait another 13 days.
My reply "refund me within 24 hours or i open a paypal dispute" will not be buying from them ever again and this has jaded my excitement of getting the Mi, as from what i have read GB will do very best to fob me of on the paypal dispute :evil............This leaves me in the situation of wanting a replacement camera drone so i can get away from DJI but nothing to get
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2017, 18:14:07 »
I have had a reply on the gearbest dispute asking me to be patient for another 8 days, this is after them asking me to wait 10 days nearly a week ago,so they are asking me to wait another 13 days.
My reply "refund me within 24 hours or i open a paypal dispute" will not be buying from them ever again and this has jaded my excitement of getting the Mi, as from what i have read GB will do very best to fob me of on the paypal dispute :evil............This leaves me in the situation of wanting a replacement camera drone so i can get away from DJI but nothing to get

Pfft... they don't even deserve text space here. I hope it gets sorted quickly.

As for a camera drone, I've started building a gps camera drone out of an old 280 frame I've got kicking about. I reckon I can get it airborne for under 200 quid! You thought of building another???  ;)
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2017, 19:01:08 »
Pfft... they don't even deserve text space here. I hope it gets sorted quickly.

As for a camera drone, I've started building a gps camera drone out of an old 280 frame I've got kicking about. I reckon I can get it airborne for under 200 quid! You thought of building another???  ;)

looked into all this building and having built a good few gps drones you cant build a drone with a decent camera with live view and the sort of range like the chinese factories do with out spending a huge amount of money, might have to wait out for a used yuneec Q500....or just forget about the whole deal
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2017, 19:21:22 »
I see your point, apollo. I considered a runcam split, but action cams are getting so small and light that you can fit a smallish 4K cam AND an fpv jobbie on the same gimbal.

But a pre-made solution with actual camera control off the Tx saves a lot of hassle... :hmm:
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2017, 22:02:13 »
Guess what, latest reply is asking me to wait till Dec 28th, saying this is within shipping time, that would make about 49 days..........err NO, starting a paypal dispute as tracking shows its not in the UK maybe still in China
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2017, 09:21:14 »
I gave up ordering from China when several packets from different companies  disappeared  into the void, two of them arrived at Heathrow sorting and the tracking then stopped. there was no way of contacting the place or if there was i couldn't find it. :angry:
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2017, 16:01:31 »
I gave up ordering from China when several packets from different companies  disappeared  into the void, two of them arrived at Heathrow sorting and the tracking then stopped. there was no way of contacting the place or if there was i couldn't find it. :angry:

I am more than happy to continue shopping with Banggood but no more with Gearbest
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2017, 13:04:07 »
@apollo7 proper gutted that you've had such a faff from Gearbest, my gimbal handle showed up at the weekend (but that was under 50 quid). Seems pretty good too.

@LuMan I'm really impressed with the Mi, but for balance I've not owned any other stuff (ie DJI or Yuneec etc) so can't really compare it. From what I've seen it's nowhere near the quality of the P4 (but then it's about a third of the price) but much closer to the P3 family with a couple of minor drawbacks (no follow me / tracking mode which doesn't really bother me, and no manual control on the camera or ability to add filters which does bother me a little bit but I can live with for the price). If you're anywhere near Hull (or anywhere I visit) you're welcome to have a look!

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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2017, 17:06:02 »
Will, yes i really am gutted about the whole sorry issue, i have a paypal report on going that i am going to esculate to dispute in the next few days, maybe i am being impatient but i placed my order on the 11.11.17
I really want the Mi 4k drone but i am now proper considering rehashing my AQ600 into a new frame and staying with self build
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2017, 21:31:03 »
Nah I totally agree, that's taking the mick, there's no reason for it to take that long.

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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2017, 17:31:14 »
I have now done full dispute on paypal, i have heard they did not have stock just want my money back now, they can stick the drone where the sun dont shine
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2017, 19:03:21 »
Some very good news, the Mi 4k has landed....and no import tax, things are being charged up and looks like i have to do a firmware update but i have had the camera working and the drone powers up, first impressions are good, looks very well made  :cool:
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2017, 19:12:11 »
About fking time, I suppose not getting screwed for tax is at least some compensation.  Flight test report please, and hurry up.. ~~
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2017, 21:21:58 »
As above,,,, flight test report please,,,,, and if we don't see video footage, it never happened  :laugh:
You might of been lucky with the tax issue, but last time I received the dreaded 'customs letter' about one week after receiving the goods  :shrug: hope you have got away with it though.
All the test videos on YouTube look good  ~~ you see the odd one struggling with setting up and updates, but they seem to be doing it all back to front. RC sailors struggled with compass calibration, it was laughable the way they spun the  drone round and round at speed and wonder why it couldn't do it lol quite sure you know what you're doing  :cool:

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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2017, 05:28:20 »
sort of looking good, i have done the firmware updates, but think i am having a prblem with the wifi usb dongle, but that might be me with my numpty head on, cant see maiden flight taking place till weekend
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2017, 10:14:11 »
I wouldn't bother with the WiFi if I were you - I just plug my phone in with the USB cable (though I guess if your phone's not Micro USB that might be a goer). I did get the WiFi working but it just seemed like a faff and killed my phone battery.

From memory the sequence is:

  • Plug in phone
  • Turn on controller
  • Wait for phone to pick up that it's plugged into something
  • Turn on USB tethering in phone settings
  • Open app and follow instructions

Should be pretty much the same with the WiFi iirc, you'll just need to turn on WiFi tethering instead of USB.

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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2017, 18:35:40 »
I wouldn't bother with the WiFi if I were you - I just plug my phone in with the USB cable (though I guess if your phone's not Micro USB that might be a goer). I did get the WiFi working but it just seemed like a faff and killed my phone battery.

From memory the sequence is:

  • Plug in phone
  • Turn on controller
  • Wait for phone to pick up that it's plugged into something
  • Turn on USB tethering in phone settings
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Should be pretty much the same with the WiFi iirc, you'll just need to turn on WiFi tethering instead of USB.

Cheers will, any chance you could post a quick run down on getting in the air, starting with compass cal
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2017, 10:41:21 »
Sure can, but it's a while since I've done the compass so this might be a bit out!

I'm pretty sure first time you boot it up it automatically goes into compass calibration, and it gives you a little animation on the screen to show you what to do. It took me a while to get it - you need to rotate quite slowly but the compass seems quite sensitive to pressure (I *think* that's what it is - I've had it struggle to take off in massive wide open spaces on high pressure days then take off first time surrounded by buildings on a low pressure day) so if you can do it when the pressure it low that should help. Don't hold it by the landing gear as I'm pretty sure that has some of the compass kit in it. I *think*when rotating it I held it out at arms length and slowly spun on the spot myself, but I could be wrong.

It's a bit of a faff, but once it's done it's done (unless you're planning on heading over to the southern hemisphere for a fly).

As I say it can be a faff taking off sometimes, on those days I tend to hold it up and keep an eye on the phone screen till 'Compass interfered, can't take off' changes to 'Could take off' then use the auto take off (short press then long press on the <> button). If it's playing ball then you can use auto take off from the ground or just use CSC down/in on both sticks to start the rotors then take off manually.

Once it's in the air it seems to fly fine regardless of whether the compass was playing silly buggers, I was pretty cautious the first couple of times but it seems to make little difference.

As an aside, I've never yet managed to get it to take off without GPS, regardless of what mode I set it to, as I probably will want to fly it indoors at some point. So if you figure out how to do that, let me know!

*edit* ignore that last bit, I was being thick. I thought all I had to do was set it to Atti / VPU in the menu, you actually then have to use the right dial to switch it to whichever mode you've selected.
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2017, 09:31:23 »
The bird has flown! have to go out so will update on this later
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Re: Xiaomi 4k Update
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2017, 12:07:47 »
Thank Clapton for that, at last.. ~~
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