User Info

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Have you missed your activation email?

Multi Rotor UK Shoutbox

Refresh History
  • DarkButterfly: Sounds like a plan, I'll go with the mini tri and KK2 mounting kit
    Today at 11:04:49
  • Hozza: DB I love Armattan frames, Chris the owner is very approachable and the warrenty is no BS either, ask Fletch  :laugh:
    Today at 10:54:34
  • DarkButterfly: both the full sized and the mini tri
    Today at 10:44:29
  • nub: the mini Tri?
    Today at 01:16:43
  • DarkButterfly: so is an RCExlorer tri
    Today at 00:00:31
  • nub: bit pricey
    July 22, 2016, 23:51:54
  • DarkButterfly: might push the button on this [link]
    July 22, 2016, 23:01:20
  • DarkButterfly: ::)
    July 22, 2016, 22:09:45
  • DarkButterfly: they are ball links, but they are useless when being flown hard, the flip wasn't even that stressful, it would have been if I did a hyper roll
    July 22, 2016, 22:09:34
  • DarrellW: @DG I have one thing to say...... ball links!!!
    July 22, 2016, 21:56:29
  • DarkButterfly: I'll be able to build a tricopter in my sleep lol
    July 22, 2016, 20:09:17
  • DarkButterfly: ::)
    July 22, 2016, 20:08:52
  • hoverfly: Groundhog day  D.B. ::)
    July 22, 2016, 19:47:31
  • DarkButterfly: Just had the most epic tricopter crash not caught on camera, both linkages on the yaw mech came off after doing a simple flip, it went into a massive spin and ploughed into long grass hard, front left arm snapped and the right arm motor mount is bent upwards
    July 22, 2016, 19:21:19
  • DarkButterfly: :laugh:
    July 22, 2016, 18:23:53
  • DarkButterfly: I need to rebuild the tricopter, snapped another front arm
    July 22, 2016, 18:23:36
  • Andy7: Yowch! PROPER prop-break this evening. Bits pinged up in the air and everything. Didn't bring any spares like a PLUM! Lesson learned.
    July 20, 2016, 21:43:41
  • Bad Raven: I have just put 0615-14 motors on a Nano QX and all I can say is............. BLIMEY!!
    July 20, 2016, 18:58:30
  • DarkButterfly: all done, ready to fly ~~
    July 20, 2016, 18:40:22
  • kilby: @DB again !!!
    July 20, 2016, 15:36:36
  • DarkButterfly: Tricopter rebuilding tomorrow ~~
    July 19, 2016, 21:54:33
  • nub: aye hot sweaty day, thunder storms tomorrow! :laugh:
    July 19, 2016, 21:32:29
  • Andy7: oo-er! Car said 35deg here in Oxford. Phew :sweating:
    July 19, 2016, 21:01:58
  • hoverfly: 32 in the shade and all my pumpkins have wilted.  (thats not a euphamism) the spuds are fine.. ::)
    July 19, 2016, 18:08:37
  • DarkButterfly: Got some stick time this afternoon ~~
    July 19, 2016, 16:52:46
  • Bad Raven: AND, I'm going to complain to Heathrow ATC, as all the early morning flights went easterly approach so no jets to hide my early morning quad session so was grounded.....BAH
    July 19, 2016, 15:29:16
  • Bad Raven: It certainly is, I flew from 10 to 12:00 and then have crawled into a dark corner!
    July 19, 2016, 15:27:48
  • nub: damn it's way to hot out there!
    July 19, 2016, 13:34:44
  • kilby: I'm told that it's a good yaw mechanism, though perhaps Phil could tell you more about it
    July 18, 2016, 11:24:02
  • DarkButterfly: Cheers Kilby ~~
    July 18, 2016, 11:09:25
  • kilby: @DB, [link]
    July 18, 2016, 10:54:27
  • kilby: I see David also got a modified version of Baseflight together to make their use on tricopters a bit better (believe it is the why who does the improved KK software)
    July 18, 2016, 10:52:27
  • kilby: DB, you could look at the armattan Tricopter frames too
    July 18, 2016, 10:51:12
  • DarrellW: @DB I've always thought David was the worlds best authority on Tricopters, however something interesting to know is that Simplecopter had a lot of input from him in his designs - probably explains why they are also really good. Not seen the new KK firmware yet, must have a look ::)
    July 18, 2016, 10:22:36
  • DarkButterfly: The KK2 v4 firmware is simply awesome, flies way better than the previous version
    July 18, 2016, 08:59:06
  • DarkButterfly: ::)
    July 18, 2016, 08:58:05
  • DarkButterfly: What David doesn't know about tricopters isn't worth knowing
    July 18, 2016, 08:57:51
  • DarrellW: @DB Davids Tricopters are ace, just a tad more expensive - one's on my hit list at some time in the future ::)
    July 18, 2016, 07:51:31
  • DarkButterfly: David's tricopters look ace and I will get one at some point
    July 17, 2016, 22:04:50
  • Gandhi: @db have a look at the rcexplorer site. David has released a new frame......
    July 17, 2016, 20:50:25
  • DarrellW: @DB get yourself a Simplecopter frame, they just work ::)
    July 17, 2016, 19:16:27
  • DarkButterfly: Just scored a whole talon tricopter frame for half price Inc shipping ::)
    July 17, 2016, 17:45:47
  • DarkButterfly: :laugh: those people have no sense
    July 17, 2016, 16:53:38
  • nub: Pokemon fs you see all the dafties running to Central Park? :laugh:
    July 17, 2016, 16:24:20
  • hoverfly: Pokemon  :sick: not even edible!!!
    July 17, 2016, 15:04:45
  • DarkButterfly: Since turnigy has ruined my flying day, i'm  off out to catch some pokemon ::)
    July 17, 2016, 15:02:13
  • nub: that not what she said lol
    July 17, 2016, 15:00:29
  • DarkButterfly: lol bit small that ::)
    July 17, 2016, 14:58:20
  • nub: :o no much good that then hehe
    July 17, 2016, 14:57:25
  • DarkButterfly: The KK2 is really fun
    July 17, 2016, 14:57:09

Who's Online

Theme Selection



Forum Default

Permanently

* Who's In The Chat Rooms

User in Chat:


Author Topic: anoying issues with the Naza M V2 on my quad...  (Read 4210 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Gearymeister

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 25
  • -Receive: 1
  • Posts: 76
  • Liked: 26
  • Country: gb
anoying issues with the Naza M V2 on my quad...
« on: September 22, 2013, 18:03:50 »
just got the Naza V2 and fitted it to my quad.

managed to get a really unstable flight out of it. although the altitude lock seemed really good the quad was spinning slowly but enough to be a pain in the backside.

now when i connect the battery i get the flashing red LED and the error says its because of the sticks not being centred even though the software shows all is good.

anyone got any advice. i'm starting to regret switching from AMP.

everything i read is raving about how amazing the Naza M V2 is. i'm clearly going wrong...

cheers

chris


I started off with nothing... I still have most of it left.

Offline flybywire

  • Je suis un Multi-Rotorist!
  • Site Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 136
  • -Receive: 231
  • Posts: 3852
  • Liked: 1331
  • Country: gb
  • What's the frequency Kenneth?
    • ajw's more-stuff
Re: anoying issues with the Naza M V2 on my quad...
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2013, 20:41:10 »
What firmware you on Gearymeister?
Blog: http://ajwillis303.wix.com/stuff
The spiritual home of fpv large
Keep it emax, capiche?
Hardware? sure, I got hardware!

Offline happyal

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 4
  • -Receive: 1
  • Posts: 36
  • Liked: 11
  • Country: gb
Re: anoying issues with the Naza M V2 on my quad...
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2013, 21:01:41 »
Hi Chris,

I'm really new to the Naza, but I hope I can help.

Before you take off you need to wait for the 10 rapid green flashes. If it's flashing red that means it doesn't have a gps lock.

Also all controls need to be entered in order to get a single flash, including the throttle. No idea why that would be useful, but that's the way it is on my Naza.

Offline Gearymeister

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 25
  • -Receive: 1
  • Posts: 76
  • Liked: 26
  • Country: gb
Re: anoying issues with the Naza M V2 on my quad...
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2013, 00:32:29 »
hey guys,

I have the latest firmware 2.18

I am still waiting fort the GPS to arrive which is a total pain in the hoop but I should still be able to play in the meantime.
like i said, the fault says there is a problem with the control centre point...  which is totally daft.

ALSO WHEN IT DID FLY, (oops caps lock) Atti mode didn't acknowledge any stick input from the throttle untill after the stick was above the centre point... surely this isn't right. whets it all about? lol


chris
I started off with nothing... I still have most of it left.

Offline flybywire

  • Je suis un Multi-Rotorist!
  • Site Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 136
  • -Receive: 231
  • Posts: 3852
  • Liked: 1331
  • Country: gb
  • What's the frequency Kenneth?
    • ajw's more-stuff
Re: anoying issues with the Naza M V2 on my quad...
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2013, 13:00:00 »
hey guys,

I have the latest firmware 2.18

I am still waiting fort the GPS to arrive which is a total pain in the hoop but I should still be able to play in the meantime.
like i said, the fault says there is a problem with the control centre point...  which is totally daft.

ALSO WHEN IT DID FLY, (oops caps lock) Atti mode didn't acknowledge any stick input from the throttle untill after the stick was above the centre point... surely this isn't right. whets it all about? lol


chris

Chris
Didn't realise you had no GPS!  Ok, so you got v 4.oo fware (so I know where you're at!).  SCuse me if you've stated this in earlier posts.  You've set it up with a clean Acro model?  Calibrated your transmtter (both on your Tx itself) and in the Naza assistant? Made sure you have no trim and all sub-trims are 0?
All sticks are green when in centre?
Just checking.
Blog: http://ajwillis303.wix.com/stuff
The spiritual home of fpv large
Keep it emax, capiche?
Hardware? sure, I got hardware!

Offline KK1W

  • Site Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 25
  • -Receive: 17
  • Posts: 169
  • Liked: 56
  • Country: us
Re: anoying issues with the Naza M V2 on my quad...
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2013, 13:49:59 »
hey guys,

I have the latest firmware 2.18

I am still waiting fort the GPS to arrive which is a total pain in the hoop but I should still be able to play in the meantime.
like i said, the fault says there is a problem with the control centre point...  which is totally daft.

ALSO WHEN IT DID FLY, (oops caps lock) Atti mode didn't acknowledge any stick input from the throttle untill after the stick was above the centre point... surely this isn't right. whets it all about? lol


chris

Chris,

When you're in ATTI moving the throttle stick won't have any effect until you go past the 50% point. In MAN mode it will behave normally but if you're new at this I would stay out of MAN for awhile  :(

The double flash will go away when the throttle stick is centered. Many of the manuals mention the stick centering doesn't apply to the throttle stick but it does. Once the throttle stick is centered you will have a single yellow flash in ATTI mode when the other controls are centered.

Sounds like you're doing fine, hope this helps

Jim
Jim/KK1W

Offline Gearymeister

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 25
  • -Receive: 1
  • Posts: 76
  • Liked: 26
  • Country: gb
Re: anoying issues with the Naza M V2 on my quad...
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2013, 14:10:55 »
hi guys, thanks for the replies

yeah, i went through all that but some reason it just wouldnt start up. I went over it all again this morning and withougt actually changing anything it all works again... Total confusion.

flying nicely but needs a bit of a tune up so I'm now at the stage where i'm setting my gains and trying to get the Atti mode to work properly.
Currently it reduces throttle and starts to oscillate really badly at ground level (sort of bouncing). Manual mode is good though.

think i'm at the trial and error stage that I was past with AMP.
it is coming to me but slowly.

however it seems i'm curssed. the screws securing the motors onto the arms keep loosening and despite using thread lock and then upgrading to super glue, and checking then as part of the pre flight checks, one of the motors just came off mid flight. the annoying thing about it is that I noticed just before but it came off just before i could land.  The result was a bent arm and broken carbon prop. I made a new arm and fixed it all up only to discover that one of the motor shafts is now badly bent. how many weeks do i have to wait for more motors to arrive from bloody china or america?

i'm getting so frustrated. All i want to do is get the quad flying and have some fun but it seems the Gods are against me lol

any suggestions on where's good in the uk to order motors?

cheers,


Chris
I started off with nothing... I still have most of it left.

Offline flybywire

  • Je suis un Multi-Rotorist!
  • Site Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 136
  • -Receive: 231
  • Posts: 3852
  • Liked: 1331
  • Country: gb
  • What's the frequency Kenneth?
    • ajw's more-stuff
Re: anoying issues with the Naza M V2 on my quad...
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2013, 14:53:27 »
hi guys, thanks for the replies

yeah, i went through all that but some reason it just wouldn't start up. I went over it all again this morning and without actually changing anything it all works again... Total confusion.

flying nicely but needs a bit of a tune up so I'm now at the stage where I'm setting my gains and trying to get the Atti mode to work properly.
Currently it reduces throttle and starts to oscillate really badly at ground level (sort of bouncing). Manual mode is good though.

think i'm at the trial and error stage that I was past with AMP.
it is coming to me but slowly.

however it seems i'm curssed. the screws securing the motors onto the arms keep loosening and despite using thread lock and then upgrading to super glue, and checking then as part of the pre flight checks, one of the motors just came off mid flight. the annoying thing about it is that I noticed just before but it came off just before i could land.  The result was a bent arm and broken carbon prop. I made a new arm and fixed it all up only to discover that one of the motor shafts is now badly bent. how many weeks do i have to wait for more motors to arrive from bloody china or america?

i'm getting so frustrated. All i want to do is get the quad flying and have some fun but it seems the Gods are against me lol

any suggestions on where's good in the uk to order motors?

cheers,


Chris


Chris
Sounds like ur having a bad hair day!  It also sounds like your motors/props are w-a-y out of balance.  It makes sense how you describe it, FC's hate vibes of any kind, and will have the effect of making the craft uncontrollable.
As a rule of thumb, if you take the props off, then run it up to full chat, Ideally you'd feel virtually no vibes, but in reality as long as it's not hurting your fingers it's probably OK!  Then all you need to do is carefully balance your props on a prop balancing device, available cheaply throughout the internet.  I think once you've done that, unless there is actually a fault with the device itself, (rare) then your multi should fly sweet as a nut, whether in manual, Atti or GPS/Atti.
 :smiley:

P.S just bought some 10x5 carbons from HK really cheap (for my Naza/hex build), took couple of weeks.  xcellent quality though. Other than that, Electric Wingman is probably the best.  A cheaper alternative are APC props, not quite as elegant as Graupners/Gemfans, but hey, they'll get u back in the air whilst you're waiting for the slow boat!
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__39774__10x5E_Carbon_Fiber_Propellers_L_H_and_R_H_Rotation_1_pair_.html?strSearch=10x5 carbon
Saying out of stock though  :angry:
Blog: http://ajwillis303.wix.com/stuff
The spiritual home of fpv large
Keep it emax, capiche?
Hardware? sure, I got hardware!

Offline Gearymeister

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 25
  • -Receive: 1
  • Posts: 76
  • Liked: 26
  • Country: gb
Re: anoying issues with the Naza M V2 on my quad...
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2013, 15:09:05 »
bad hair day lol yeah something like that.
such a beautiful day, day off work and I cant get out there...

I have all the props balanced perfect. vibration is not a problem. like i say, the quad is fine in manual mode. think its just about setting the gains. (in manual it kichs AMP's butt!)

Ive got spare carbon props. i learned that lesson at the very beginning.  :laugh:

but i don't have a spare motor. to be honest i'm not sure the motors i've been using are really the best ones.
I've got the 28-26s 1200KV Propdrive from HK http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__25084__NTM_Prop_Drive_Series_28_26A_1200kv_250w_short_shaft_version_.html

I dont know an aweful lot about what KV I should be using. I see a lot of poeple saying they have the 700KV. does this represent the strength of the motor or the power draw?

Now there's a rookie question. I just haven't been able to find a description of the ratings and what it all means.

i garantee the GPS unit arrives tomorrow and I cant play lol

cheers,

Chris
I started off with nothing... I still have most of it left.

Offline Gearymeister

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 25
  • -Receive: 1
  • Posts: 76
  • Liked: 26
  • Country: gb
Re: anoying issues with the Naza M V2 on my quad...
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2013, 15:04:36 »
The GPS JUST ARRIVED TODAY!!! happy times ahead. I also got more motors yesterday so things are looking good.
I started off with nothing... I still have most of it left.

Offline flybywire

  • Je suis un Multi-Rotorist!
  • Site Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 136
  • -Receive: 231
  • Posts: 3852
  • Liked: 1331
  • Country: gb
  • What's the frequency Kenneth?
    • ajw's more-stuff
Re: anoying issues with the Naza M V2 on my quad...
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2013, 15:38:13 »
Yeah, lost without my GPS.. :laugh:

Andy
Blog: http://ajwillis303.wix.com/stuff
The spiritual home of fpv large
Keep it emax, capiche?
Hardware? sure, I got hardware!