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Query time, Rates!
« on: May 14, 2018, 20:44:12 »
So I've just decided to take an interest and check my rates on my Rooster and realised they're at 667 degrees roll/yaw.
Should I gradually up them to 900 or so?, I quite enjoy flying a bit nutty.

A week ago or so I did change my rates on the sim from 667 to 900+ and certainly felt a difference. Felt looser so I don't know if I need to adjust anything else If I was to up my rates?


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Re: Query time, Rates!
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2018, 21:05:26 »
I am learning rate and have mine set to about 1000deg/sec but quite a bit of super rate and expo to tame things down centre stick.

I am not sure it that is why I am having difficulty trying to keep hairpin turns tight and not either sliding backwards or gaining too much height.
I am using FPVFreerider and have the settings a bit higher than snappy3 and it does perform similar to my quad.
So I would say practice on the sim with high rates then set them on your quad add a bit of super rate/expo etc to tame centre sticks and you will be fine.

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Re: Query time, Rates!
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2018, 21:54:47 »
I am learning rate and have mine set to about 1000deg/sec but quite a bit of super rate and expo to tame things down centre stick.

I am not sure it that is why I am having difficulty trying to keep hairpin turns tight and not either sliding backwards or gaining too much height.
I am using FPVFreerider and have the settings a bit higher than snappy3 and it does perform similar to my quad.
So I would say practice on the sim with high rates then set them on your quad add a bit of super rate/expo etc to tame centre sticks and you will be fine.

Ah I see, I think I'll take my work laptop out to the field.. tutut and do some gradual adjustments.
Do you mean turns like the one I did in the little clip I posted? I think for that it was a case of reducing throttle, while applying yaw + roll & then increasing throttle.
Racing practice on the sim helped me a tonne with turning.
my throttle control still could do with plenty of work mind :/

But thanks for that, going to keep watching vids & then hunt for the perfect rates.


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Re: Query time, Rates!
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2018, 22:13:14 »
This is the vid I looked at plus some Josh Bardwell like:
Cheers for info on turns. I think you are right lower throttle, turn, bit more forward pitch and bit more throttle  ::)
Practice, practice, it does take me a long time to get my fingers to remember stuff  ::)

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Re: Query time, Rates!
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2018, 22:20:51 »
There is no right answer to rates, look at skitzo and le drinking, both superb freestyle pilots, they have completely different rates,

Freestyle and race pilots tend to have different rates (generally racers are lower

Your rates are therefore personal to you, set them where they feel most comfortable.

My suggestion is start with rc rate - this is basically a straight line rate, it is modified at the ends by s rate which basically adds expo... so...
Set up F.C. rate where you like the feel in the mid stick (from about 25% to 75% I’d mind stick is 50%

S rate is then used to add extra speed at full stick deflection. You don’t need insane speed, 1000 degrees per second is about three full rotations a second, many pilots don’t go much more than that,

The trick is to stick to rates, things like snap rolls are all about muscle memory, if you change your rates you bugger it up

Try a few settings, find what suits you best

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Re: Query time, Rates!
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2018, 22:53:04 »
I seem to remember that in BetaFlight you can have 3 rate profiles that you can use your tx to switch between. That way you can try 3 different ones very easily.

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Re: Query time, Rates!
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2018, 21:33:29 »
Thanks both as always, will certainly be giving this a try.
Will have to look into setting that up Ched as that'd be very useful.
Thanks!