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FPV Flightclub PROton
« on: December 20, 2017, 21:49:52 »
Whilst I am entirely hooked on my Air Ro (running three of them) to the exclusion of my 5 inch frames, I feel it is time for an ultra light 5 inch.
Love the low profile look of this frame, it is on its way and all other parts here so thought I would start a build thread:

Frame: FPV FlightClub PROton (Skeleton format)
http://fpv-flightclub.com/215g-race-quad/

Flight controller: Sunrise Siskin F4/30 amp blheli32 aio
(Going for light with blheli32 escs, on 48khz pwm ultra smooth)
https://www.electricwingman.com/sunrise-siskin-aio-fc-30a

Motors: ZMX finX23 IJN Umikaze
Again with the ultralight, just under 24grams without wires. 2205 2600kv so gonna be careful with prop choice
http://www.acrodrones.co.uk/product/zmx-finx23-fr05-2-6k-motor-ijn-umikaze-2205-2600kv/

Cam - Foxeer predator mini -after seeing a couple of reviews decided to give this a try
http://www.hobbyrc.co.uk/foxeer-predator-mini-1000tvl-camera-with-osd-black

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Got some gemfan winddancer 5042 props which I really like but also trying dal t5051c

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2017, 09:27:17 »
Oh no... :help:
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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2017, 15:44:00 »
Look forward to seeing the build!


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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2017, 15:53:28 »
that build thread is notably avoiding 2 somethings when stating its weight?

I might be wrong, maybe I missed it but when listing the full build list there's no mention of battery or for that matter props.

are they even included in that auw?

if not..... its not exactly "lightweight" anymore, at the minimum I doubt it weighs in under the 250 mark??
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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2017, 16:40:49 »
that build thread is notably avoiding 2 somethings when stating its weight?

I might be wrong, maybe I missed it but when listing the full build list there's no mention of battery or for that matter props.

are they even included in that auw?

if not..... its not exactly "lightweight" anymore, at the minimum I doubt it weighs in under the 250 mark??
It isn’t gonna be under 250gram AUW, to do that you have to use a 40grams or less frame, 14xx motors, 850mah lipo and light props. The ultra light racers are about 210-220gram without lipo. (Think Floss or CMW superlight or Norris built light)
Lipos are typically 1300mah or 1500mah depending on if they can get the course done on 1300 with the motor/prop/AUW. Generally they try and get down close to 350gran AUW which is considerably lighter than your average 5 inch quad

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2018, 13:14:39 »
Ok built and maidened.
Will get maiden footage sorted later, nothing exciting, but nice

Thoughts -WITCHCRAFT

The frame is a delight to build, Mike has, as usual put a lot of thought in to it, there are bags of stuff you don’t get on other quads. It is seriously well thought out and near. If you only buy one frame this year, buy this one!!

He actual sent me the 5.5 inch arms, and I quite like them, good for stability, very little weight increase.

I also ditched the 25mm standoffs it comes with and built it with 20mm

Lamule -could easily accommodate split. Also mate, take a try of the 5040 cyclones if you haven’t already, for your kind of acro photography they seem brilliant as well as very efficient

Running bf3.2.3, reversed yaw, 8khz/4khz, dshot1200, all gyro filters removed, dynamic filtering enabled
Latest blheli32 with motor pwm turned up to 48khz

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2018, 13:44:02 »
So the big question for me........

Something like this or the AIR-RO, (I have been holding out to see if the motors will come back in stock on the Kit) for a beginner?

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2018, 14:42:49 »
For a beginner? Air ro, has slightly less top end but nit lacking, more robust, peerless agility, almost indestructible and cheap to run

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2018, 16:53:26 »
That looks nice. I like the vtx antenna mounting position, should be quite safe.
Did you manage to get it under 250gms with batt?

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2018, 17:36:49 »
Lol wasn’t trying to mate, no where near, done that on 2 quads as an exercise but you can’t do it with standard component, the ultralight racers AUW are around 350-400grams AUW

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 18:00:40 »
Lol wasn’t trying to mate, no where near, done that on 2 quads as an exercise but you can’t do it with standard component, the ultralight racers AUW are around 350-400grams AUW
I just saw the bit about 'ultra light 5 inch' and thought you might have succeeded in sub 250 ::)
Oh well we will have to wait for the stupid gov rules to see the weight limits. If they ever sort themselves out that is.

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2018, 02:12:40 »
Maiden fpv footage. Mostly mid throttle, stock pids:

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2018, 14:49:36 »
Slight modification, 5 inch racing arms and brother returner r5s, now need to test fly:
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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2018, 12:10:09 »
Thats a cracking build. Love the look of the motors and the red really sets it off. Great job on the wiring. Really neat and very clean build :)

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2018, 15:06:01 »
Flies well too, need to put a cap on it to clean up fpv if I wanna use videos but gopro mount arrives tomorrow

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2018, 17:03:47 »
The Kinetic Air-Ro  #2 arrived today, the #1 i fitted a kakute f/c. This one came with a Is 100 f4 Fly Tower which is tiny :blink
When i grow up i'm going to learn to fly both of them.. :whistling:
Reptile folder , alien 500 , F/ Shark Attitudes,
 .Tarot 650, Air-rio Kinetic.. DX9  Various wings and planks.. Taranis x9D+..Mavic..Armattan.. Chameleion...
Massive over draught.....

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2018, 20:35:22 »
The Kinetic Air-Ro  #2 arrived today, the #1 i fitted a kakute f/c. This one came with a Is 100 f4 Fly Tower which is tiny :blink
When i grow up i'm going to learn to fly both of them.. :whistling:
Lol I started flying mine with 1000mah lipos mate, they go insanely fast, the PROton is quite possibly the only quad I have faster than them

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2018, 10:40:16 »
Lol I started flying mine with 1000mah lipos mate, they go insanely fast, the PROton is quite possibly the only quad I have faster than them
  Just what i needed to hear...  :laugh:
Reptile folder , alien 500 , F/ Shark Attitudes,
 .Tarot 650, Air-rio Kinetic.. DX9  Various wings and planks.. Taranis x9D+..Mavic..Armattan.. Chameleion...
Massive over draught.....

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2018, 15:42:52 »
And now with gopro mount (running butterflight with FKF) need to listen the sliders to soften transitions, possibly a little more d term needed too)


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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2018, 17:23:01 »
Oh Noooooo... :sick:
Reptile folder , alien 500 , F/ Shark Attitudes,
 .Tarot 650, Air-rio Kinetic.. DX9  Various wings and planks.. Taranis x9D+..Mavic..Armattan.. Chameleion...
Massive over draught.....

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2018, 20:41:46 »
How are you getting on with butterflight? I watched a Josh B youtube vid where he shows 2 fight comparing BF to butterflight and to me butterflight  seemed more locked in. He didn't seem convinced but said it was good to try the different software.
Have you tried a comparison between the Karman filters and the new ones BF are using?

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2018, 20:57:19 »
Ok built and maidened.
Will get maiden footage sorted later, nothing exciting, but nice

Thoughts -WITCHCRAFT

The frame is a delight to build, Mike has, as usual put a lot of thought in to it, there are bags of stuff you don’t get on other quads. It is seriously well thought out and near. If you only buy one frame this year, buy this one!!

He actual sent me the 5.5 inch arms, and I quite like them, good for stability, very little weight increase.

I also ditched the 25mm standoffs it comes with and built it with 20mm

Lamule -could easily accommodate split. Also mate, take a try of the 5040 cyclones if you haven’t already, for your kind of acro photography they seem brilliant as well as very efficient

Running bf3.2.3, reversed yaw, 8khz/4khz, dshot1200, all gyro filters removed, dynamic filtering enabled
Latest blheli32 with motor pwm turned up to 48khz

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Cheers Adam for the tip.  I have liked this frame for a while.  When I have a bit of spare cash going I might order one, and, as you say I think a Split would be the way forward.  I have a hankering to give the brotherhobby avengers a go with one! :)

Cheers for the tip on the cyclones too.  I might give them a go when the HQs run out! :)

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2018, 22:08:06 »
:) if we are both at next south ox meet mate I will have spare 5040 cyclones on me you can try if you haven’t by then.

As long as you don’t want full on race speeds I would say the first version was smoother as an acro/cam option (5.5 inch arms and zmx finx23), was slow either, may be worth considering on other frames

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Re: FPV Flightclub PROton
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2018, 21:48:23 »
:) if we are both at next south ox meet mate I will have spare 5040 cyclones on me you can try if you haven’t by then.

As long as you don’t want full on race speeds I would say the first version was smoother as an acro/cam option (5.5 inch arms and zmx finx23), was slow either, may be worth considering on other frames

Thanks Adam, that’s great. It’d be good to catch up again too! It was a shame you couldn’t make the last one.


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