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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2017, 21:31:43 »
They use a bastardised version of blheli... not Simonk as you may expect.

They can be flashed but it's cheaper and easier to buy a new set of escs in the future once you start to uograde

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2017, 21:32:48 »
Would suggest blheli_s when he upgrades

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2017, 21:47:12 »
Well the plan is to get this one flying first. Get some practise in and when I upgrade I know where to come for some recommendations on upgrades 😆

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2017, 22:06:11 »


While building mine though been getting a little practise in on one of these miniatures.  Bloody brilliant little thing!!!

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2017, 14:30:42 »


Just been re-soldering the wires from the motors. Final one and seemed okay. Plug the battery in and pop pop bang smoke and flame :(  one dead esc.

Any recommendations for new ones that won't blow the bank?

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2017, 14:36:15 »
Depends what motor/prop/cell count you are running (this governs how much power they will draw and therefore the amp rating of the escs, but spedix as a brand, something like this:
https://www.electricwingman.com/searchresults.aspx?q=Spedix

Edit eep, are you powering the flight cintrolller from the escs? If so you will also need a 5v reg/bec
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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2017, 14:46:10 »
running on 3 cell. I have very basic set up as it wasn't  an expensive kit.  The motors are "TAROT 2300KV".  You guys (and maybe gals as can never tell by user name) said that the ones that I have killed were 12A so jumping up to a 20A wouldn't be a problem? 

The spedix ones have the 2 wires to the esc dont they? That means I would need to put a 5v feed from the PDB to the Naze to power them?

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2017, 14:49:19 »
Yes and yes
20amp will be fine
And you would need to put a 5v supply there to the fc

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2017, 14:52:21 »
And so the cycle of upgrading starts!  Lol

As you are upgrading ESCs, you be as well put in a PDB with a 5v regulator onboard it ... Or pick a flight controller that accepts full battery input

http://www.radioc.co.uk/Pocketrocket-20a-BLHeli-S-OPTO-ESC-p/4032.htm

These ESCs look exactly the same the armattan ESCs and they are good

http://www.radioc.co.uk/Matek-PDB-36mm-p/7211.htm
Here is a pdb with 5 and 12v on-board

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2017, 14:52:58 »
Okay cool.  Looks like the quad will be living in its box for a few weeks until the end of the month to buy the new ESCs. 

Oh well I guess I will have to learn the hard way :( just wish I could get this thing in the air.

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2017, 14:54:20 »
:) you will get there

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2017, 14:55:02 »
And so the cycle of upgrading starts!  Lol

As you are upgrading ESCs, you be as well put in a PDB with a 5v regulator onboard it ... Or pick a flight controller that accepts full battery input

http://www.radioc.co.uk/Pocketrocket-20a-BLHeli-S-OPTO-ESC-p/4032.htm

These ESCs look exactly the same the armattan ESCs and they are good

http://www.radioc.co.uk/Matek-PDB-36mm-p/7211.htm
Here is a pdb with 5 and 12v on-board


Well I have a Naze 32 Rev 6(?) which has the 5v option which to be fair i had wired in not knowing that my FC was powered by the ESC (but removed before powered up) so will be easy to put that back on.

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2017, 14:56:48 »
I've got a pdb you can have with 5 and 12v on-board ... It has a damaged terminal on the cam/vtx side ... But if your careful it should be fine

http://www.getfpv.com/atas-pro-mini-power-distribution-board.html

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2017, 15:37:24 »
My PDB is currently a matek v3.1 which has the 5v feed for the FC. I also have a spare ARRIS Naze 32 PDB which I ordered at the same time as the Naze FC.  Really appreciate the offer but have spares of that bit (might be the only bit I have a spare of though lol)

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2017, 15:38:23 »
Definatley then, get the soedix 20a blheli_s escs

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2017, 15:46:57 »
Payday cant come quick enough.  Jan is a long month anyway as get paid before Christmas but now feels even longer away to buy new parts

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2017, 17:29:24 »


Depends what motor/prop/cell count you are running (this governs how much power they will draw and therefore the amp rating of the escs, but spedix as a brand, something like this:
https://www.electricwingman.com/searchresults.aspx?q=Spedix

Edit eep, are you powering the flight cintrolller from the escs? If so you will also need a 5v reg/bec


4 of these ordered today.  3-4 working days for delivery. Going to start pulling mine apart tomorrow ready for Mr postman



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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2017, 16:55:45 »



So the new esc are here and managed to get some time this afternoon to get the wired in.

Now before I plug my battery in and blow more things up, what are my next steps? I guess that I will have to effectively start again and wipe the fc and start again?

Oh and I shortened the battery wire on recommendation from someone plus some red cable because I can  

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2017, 17:26:39 »
Some of the order is interchangeable but:

1.  Update the firmware on the escs (blheli suite, you should be able to do it through the flight controller)
(That first step could be left off or could be done last)
2. Check the motors are spinning the correct direction - if they are not reverse the direction as required in blheli suite
3. Calibrate you escs in configurator

Off you go, no need to change anything on he fc, the escs will auto detect the protocol

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2017, 17:32:49 »
Ps, a bit concerned by your picture, make sure the bottom pads of the escs where the motor wires are soldered can not touch the frame, carbon is conductive, a short across there would not go well

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2017, 17:37:09 »
Ps, a bit concerned by your picture, make sure the bottom pads of the escs where the motor wires are soldered can not touch the frame, carbon is conductive, a short across there would not go well

just looked and at least 3mm clear of the frame. the bottom of the esc and the shink wrap holds it off. thanks for that tip though, hope not to blow these ones up


plugged into cleanflight, fc lit up blue and flashing orange.  no beeping and the motors didnt twitch like they did before? normal?

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2017, 17:39:25 »
just tried to flash to naze 14.2 but only made it half way and then failed. should i got for the version before?

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2017, 17:42:44 »
just tried to flash to naze 14.2 but only made it half way and then failed. should i got for the version before?


STM32 - timed out, programming: FAILED

??

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2017, 21:38:07 »

STM32 - timed out, programming: FAILED

??
Yes I would or try to install it again in had to try upteen times before I could get eny firmwear on my naze the first time I flashed it

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2017, 22:15:53 »
I've flashed my naze and had it all set up before. Just set the limits on the esc and plugged in the battery. Seemed to run fine which to me seems good.

I've downloaded blhelisuite just need to get my head around that programme now

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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2017, 23:28:43 »
This should help! Half the stuff you don't need anyway when starting out. I was flying for a while before I flashed an esc.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bi1XcdpnQI




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Re: hello and a little help needed
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2017, 17:56:19 »
IT LIVES  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) more than a little bit happy.  Just had its first flight..... only about 3 foot in the air in the front room but it goes up.

Thank you all for your advice to get it to where I am now.  Just cant wait to get it out in a field somewhere now