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looking for help
« on: October 10, 2017, 19:11:56 »
not sure where to ask but...

i have been droning for about 6 months now, first started with a micro then moved to the syma x5c, i love that thing. recently i have taken a liking to freestyling looks so slick and free, now with a tight budget i wanted to build a drone for this. how much would be a good guide line for a cheap build with the option to upgrade in the future.

the fpv mode can be a miss dont mind if that would be a miss but would be good to record.

the transmiter i was thinking of the flysky fs i6 for 35 quid would this have idle mode/acro etc and different flight modes...

if anyone could recommend a cheap build that would be great

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2017, 20:39:48 »
Hi and  :welcome:

Majority if pilots are fpv I encounter. Certainly if you want to film from the quad fpv is vital.

Suggest you take a drive round the 250buid section of the forum, take a look at some builds and find one you like

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2017, 07:28:54 »
Thanks for the replies, after reading in the 250 forum I realised it is more complicated than I thought, while really having no idea what I';m doing at the moment, so I was looking at a couple of cheap ones to get me started, does anyone know if the bug 6 is any good to start with, at only 70 pound won';t lose much of I crash out, and would this be compatible with the flysky i6 controller I want to get.

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2017, 10:00:54 »
If you are going with a cheap ready built quad, at least try to get something with a carbon fibre frame with a standard flight controller, ESCs, motors and props so that you can replace anything that breaks in a crash.

I can';t see any indication that the Bug 6 will work with a Flysky and it looks fairly horrible, to be honest. I started out with an Eachine Racer so I know a thing or two about regretting that first purchase.

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2017, 14:10:54 »

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 17:12:41 »
thanks for that, i did see the wizard but not the 220 s version, is there much difference between the 2??

as for the fpv side of things would it be possible to wtach through my phone, i got the headset for it which i use occasionally for games etc but if i could get the signal through to my phone that could save me some as a short term thing

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2017, 17:50:14 »

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2017, 19:04:34 »
Yeah the budget plays a big part more so being this side of Xmas, kinda shame phone wouldn';t work, think I might wait till next year and just continue to play on my syma

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2017, 22:35:08 »
« Last Edit: October 14, 2017, 19:42:05 by SLFLY »

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2017, 02:38:34 »

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2017, 14:06:59 »
Just like to say thanks for the detailed reply, that naze does look good, so with that and a controller it would be under 100 until I get the fpv sorted, though Los flying in my local fields is still fun,

How can I tell what flight controller can do what, such as the rate /acro etc not sure how many modes there are,

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2017, 14:32:21 »
Just like to say thanks for the detailed reply, that naze does look good, so with that and a controller it would be under 100 until I get the fpv sorted, though Los flying in my local fields is still fun,

How can I tell what flight controller can do what, such as the rate /acro etc not sure how many modes there are,
The ZMR250 Naze32 is old technology. It must be over 2 years old at minimum if not 4!!! technology moves very fast in this hobby. Some ';moves'; are sort of diminishing returns. The Naze32 will do rate,and stabilised flight mode no problem. Just to let you know BetaFlight (currently most popular FlightController software wont support the Naze32 after the current version, not that that would be an issue to you really).
You will also need a charger and batteries.

About 4 years ago I bought a very similar kit from AliExpress. I built it and it all worked but boy was it difficult to fly. So much so that I gave up! A year later I got a F450 with a Naza controller (not Naze but DJI Naza). It was much bigger and so easy to fly. I flew it for about a year and in Sept I completed a small 220 size build (in build section if interested). It was not cheap, even thought I was trying to keep a relatively low budget. WOW the difference between the ZMR250 and the new Martian3 220 is amazing. Some of it will be due to my increasing my skills from the F450 but it is so much easier to fly.
It might be better to get the controller and a usb cable and get lots of practice in on a sim especially as it';s winter soon. Then save up over winter and get something a bit more modern.

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2017, 17:31:25 »
« Last Edit: October 14, 2017, 19:41:19 by SLFLY »

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2017, 17:49:49 »
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Re: looking for help
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2017, 19:49:01 »
for that price it seems great, i know im gonna crash it a few times but it seems the parts are interchangeable, but the base is there for what i need thanks for that, is there anyway to tell what would be compatiable with what, like if i decided to upgrade motors or FC if it would work with the rest etc..

again how hard would it be to change to a new transmiteron this model

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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2017, 22:33:24 »

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2017, 23:50:32 »
No offence taken mate. More viewpoints are better than one. You probably have alot more experience than me in the field. Can you tell us which model your talking about that you think is trash ?  The QAV250 pro kit to me doesn';t look that bad spec wise. The weak area';s could always be upgraded. The AKASO kit would obviously have some bad points about it to get the price that low. I';ll admit it probably wont be the greatest quad ever but bound to be better than a X5. What would be your recommendation to get started ? Should the OP spend more or go for something cheap ?
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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2017, 23:52:15 »
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Re: looking for help
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2017, 23:58:33 »
« Last Edit: October 15, 2017, 00:09:40 by Cheredanine »

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2017, 02:34:24 »
I am new to these boards. I am aware the suggestions above have been on the market for some years and are not exactly cutting edge or the latest and greatest. I posted them mainly because they are just geared towards keeping the costs down. I got the impression the OP didnt have a massive amount to spend by suggesting he might leave until it till next year. The OP hasnt said his budget so we have no idea what is in his range. He said he wanted something cheap. The quads above are cheap. Are they worth buying ? well i have ordered the QAV250 Pro kit out of curiosity so i';ll see how bad it truly is or not.

I also with agree with what your saying and going the custom piece by piece route. There are plenty of good deals and bits to be found. That will almost certainly pay off better in the end for a far better quad. It could just take longer to research and figure out what';s worth buying and about individual brands/models/parts etc and which are good/bad. But ultimately worth doing. Custom builds generally end up costing more and the process can take longer than originally planned. The options i posted are short cuts to getting in air and flying quicker possibly with the least hassle. Which i know may not be the best choice in the long term.
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« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2017, 11:30:31 »

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Re: looking for help
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2017, 21:43:13 »
Yeah the budget plays a big part more so being this side of Xmas, kinda shame phone wouldn';t work, think I might wait till next year and just continue to play on my syma
Continue to play with the syma. Then buy the Flysky i6 and a usb adapter as your xmas pressy and get lots of sim practice in on FPVFreerider.
That way you can get something that will be so much better and easier to fly in the new year. Lets face it UK weather not great for flying over the winter. So by spring you will be ready and raring to go.